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Get a Job...Sha na na nah...Sha na na na nah...
I am unique. Now before you either start to nod your head and smile (whether you know me or not), and before you think that this is some warm fuzzy blather about finding your bliss, let me set you straight: I mean that my skill set does not qualify me for the ministry position I hold.
But enough about me... Instead, let me tell you something about myself. I have three degrees: one each in music education, music history, and conducting. I "studied" to be a musicologist, producing original research on mid-18th Century Viennese sacred music, and I "trained" to be an orchestral conductor, studying in places like Aspen, and privately, with Music Directors of orchestras such as Indianapolis, San Francisco, Milwaukee, Baltimore, and more. But I had three degrees, so I became an academic. And I "educated" college-aged musicians in conducting, and music history, and more.
Many of the students who studied with me got degrees. But most didn't care enough about what I knew to learn what they needed to know in order to do my job as an academic...or a jazz player...or a church musician...or a budget manager...or a program administrator...or a motivator...or, to get to the point, a leader.
That is part of the problem.
The other part of the problem is that none of my supervisors, or colleagues for that matter (except when I was being a jazz player), knew enough about what I knew, and what I was doing, to evaluate whether or not I was doing a "good job."
What's a Degree Worth
In my last MME (thank you for all your positive response and comments, by the way...I'm glad that it seemed to be valuable to so many people...haven't read it? click here), my mantra was: People Matter, and People Don't Matter. This time I want to break the news that: Degrees Matter, and Degrees Don't Matter.
The context here is twofold: First, in the past couple of weeks (more likely than not because of that last MME article), I have heard regularly from people, mostly in the south and midwest (you'll have to read that MME to understand why that is important--click here) who had been "let go" from their ministry position, many of whom had served the church they were leaving for more than 10 years. Second, Creator is expanding, and I have had, in the last two days, one conversation with a potential new hire, and one with a colleague about whether an internal candidate is "ready" to take on new challenges.
Here's the interesting part: in neither of those conversations was the person in question's degree(s), or lack thereof, EVER a part of the consideration. What I wanted to know was whether the person could do the job.
But I've said that degrees do matter, so before I get any further ahead of myself, let me state my position. Then you be the judge of whether or not I'm just blowing smoke.
In the formal job application process, a degree, and where it is from, matters.The simple reason for why this is so is that most people cannot (and likely will not ever be able to) understand what a musician does, let alone evaluate it. So a degree matters because it gives people a reference point. They understand the nature (or at least the reputation) of the school (although almost never of the department that granted the degree...more likely their impression of the school comes from that school's athletic department success), and they understand that a graduate degree is worth more than an undergraduate one.
This is a double edged sword (or two). On the information side, they may think you know more (or less) than you do because of their impression of the school. On the salary side, they may dismiss your candidacy if you look to be too well schooled. It might lead them to believe that you wouldn't be happy serving at their church, or that you would be pushy about...well, they're not quite sure what, but probably something.
But the situation is often completely reversed when it comes to leading a "contemporary" worship ministry. It often is more important, to the people doing the hiring in those situations, that, above all else, you be young, because that is the demographic that the church wants to reach. Now before you dismiss that last sentence as being written with bitterness, let me assure you, as best I can, that my role here is to tell you what I see, not complain about what that means. In my experience and as a result of my observation, churches will overlook background and education if it is not important to them.
And before you traditional church musicians get to crying in your soup, there is a significant amount of historical evidence that this is not an isolated phenomenon of the 21st century. The pastoral field is filled with people who have "anointing" as their sole calling card, and many of them have had a significant ministry. More importantly, the church musician field, particularly in certain denominations, is filled with people who are/were considered to have a good singing voice, because that is/was the primary qualification when hiring a "song leader."
When a person has used the formal education process to understand the fundamentals of their art and craft, and applied themselves to the acquisition of the things that can only be learned by studying, the degree matters.
On the other hand, when someone has gone through the formal education process with a disdain toward the learning process, or a lack of discipline when it comes to studying, the degree doesn't matter.
When someone has found that a musical education, or a seminary education, in isolation, is not enough to do church music or worship ministry well, and has taken the time and effort to pursue an in-depth education in both, the degree matters.
Yet it has been my experience and observation that a musical education, or a seminary education, can be used as an excuse to not get training in the other discipline. At the same time, it is common for a person lacking in training in one of the disciplines (most often theology, but not always) to undertake self-study (J. S. Bach is a well-known example), to the extent that they are well versed in the subject matter. In either of these cases the degree doesn't matter.
And there is one more thing. In some cases a person (ahem...such as myself...) has too many degrees, and in this case the degrees don't matter because the prevailing view on the part of the hiring committee is that too many degrees means that (and I've been told each of these...):
- "you wouldn't want to work here with all your education"
- "you wouldn't be happy here"
- "we can't pay you what you are worth"
and the big one:
- "I can't work with anyone who knows more than me."
Does This Sound Familiar?
So far, I have been talking about why degrees matter and degrees don't matter when it comes to Getting a job. Since I've been talking about that, and since many of you have been humming it anyway, here's a great clip of that old tune.
But once you have that job, the problem is that the dichotomy doesn't go away. In many cases, it gets worse.
Having a degree is an implied contract that you know what you are doing. If a person uses the fact that they have a degree during the job application process, there is a responsibility to the profession, and the calling, to include educational imperatives in their ministry. At the same time, if you find, during the course of your ministry, that your knowledge is lacking in an area, and you pursue a degree to become more expert in that area, a degree matters a whole lot. Not just to you, and to those you minister to, and to those who evaluate you, but to the kingdom. In leading by example, you show that continuing to study is part of what a Christ-follower does as a matter of course.
A degree is not a license to quit learning. Neither is it a free "get out of jail" card when you demonstrate you don't know what you are doing, or that you don't want to adapt to a new reality--be that a pastoral change, a worship style course change, or a cultural or demographic change in the community in which you minister. At the same time, if you can and do change while "on the job," a degree doesn't predict what your success rate will be. People will be watching, and it is how you do your ministry that matters (EVERY SINGLE DAY), not whether or not you have formal training.
What's the Alternative
I have thought about this for many years, and I think the "middle ground" is some sort of certification program that validates the bona fides of a church musician or worship leader. The difficulty is that there is no real certifying agency that everyone, including the bureaucratic institutions with a vested interest, presently agrees upon. Denominations such as the Evangelical Covenant and the United Methodists have programs that bestow credibility upon pastoral musicians, but the practice is not widespread. The American Guild of Organists issues certificates for various practical accomplishments, but there seems to be no linkage with a truly spiritual/pastoral component. Institutions like the Brehm Center at Fuller Seminary and the Robert Webber Institute for Worship Studies have degree programs, but they are academically grounded, and require a significant academic commitment.
Final Thoughts
I think it is time for some institution, or independent body with credible authority, to establish some sort of (I'm making the name up) Certificate of Competency in Church Music, Worship Leadership, and the Arts. I think that the stakes have been raised to such an extent that without some middle ground certification, church musicians and worship leaders will continue to be at the mercy of being evaluated on their ministry performance by people who simply have no qualifications to do so. And at the same time, the job description of the modern church musician/worship leader has evolved to the point that (all together now...) Degrees Matter, and Degrees Don't Matter.
Without some independent body to evaluate the gifts and skills of church musicians and worship leaders (a sort of "Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval") so that churches can trust what they are getting, the profession suffers from the potential incompetency of those who serve in the ministry. It is time to give churches the means to trust the competency of their church music and worship leaders, just as membership in artisan guilds served that purpose in the past.
What do you think? Am I crazy? Has society become too "me," and church institutions become to insular to make this happen? Is there a place for peer review in music and worship ministry? Would a certificate have helped in a situation that you have encountered? Have you found that even though you have some sort of certificate, it worked against you? I really want to engage in a conversation about the ideas here. You can let me know what you think by leaving a comment below. Whether you agree or disagree, please contribute. Thanks.
Blessings.
Vern Sanders
Vern has served in some form of church music and worship leadership for 40 years in a variety of denominations both in the US and in Canada. He is currently Director of Music at First Presbyterian Church, Templeton, California. He regularly consults with churches and church leaders. Click on his name above to email him.
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Nancy Taylor Ginsburg
266 days ago
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Vern, I agree with the certification concept and, at the same time, would like to state that both the masters and doctorate programs at The Robert E. Webber Institute for Worship Studies (IWS) are very accessible for the working church musician. What a rich and incredible experience that school provides! When I saw my own education gap and began independent study, I ran headfirst into the work of Robert Webber...and applied for doctorate work (now completed). I'm at a small church and was not funded for education -- and IWS was affordable! I strongly recommend.
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Thanks for the comment. I, too, have been impressed with IWS. I'm glad it was good for you, and I have heard similar things from many other graduates.
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Richard Huggins
1 years 301 days ago
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Haha..I'll be lookin' for you, Vern. But back to the topic,lemme tell you---I am working with a worship leader (I am Assoc. W.L--part time) who come to us with a guitar, a basketball (he's 6.2") and B.A. in P.E.! He talked about (and had lead sheets for) the keys of A# and D# until I informed him there weren't any such creatures. We had a few territorial battle early on, which I attribute to insecurity on his part. However, it was to turn out that we have become close friends and I have mpre-less taught him music ministry, which is not the same thing as teaching him music. As I replay the last 5 years with this guy, I wonder which I would prefer he have if it could be only one---degree or experience? And I am shocked at myself for thinking experience! He could overcome not having a music education, or we (the other musicians) could translate his clumsiness as regards what a music education would have helped. But I believe that while the church is overall blessed more than unblessed by him as WL, the church has no music ministry other than worship. No kids , youth or adult choirs, handbells or instl. And I would love a professional musician to talk shop with. So, if I could have only one, that's what I'd take.Some of that he needs to know about music itself, he can be taught--by me and by the junior college here. And the church did pay for music courses there, which he took a real interest in. BUt thats another story.
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I talked about this trend (mentoring young, full-time, worship leaders with part time church musicians) in my last post here: http://creatormagazine.com.bulltechsolutions.com/dnn/MondayMorningEmail/PracticalTools/FunnyHowTimeSlipsAway.aspx. It is one more of those good news/bad news situations.
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The United Methodist Church does have a certification program, one of the requirements is a Master's Degree!
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Is that what is called "unclear on the concept"?
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Vern, I agree re: certification. It is in the five-year plan of IWS to consider a co-curricular multi-faceted certification program. I would like to see this developed. Let's continue to dialogue. James R. Hart, President The Robert E. Webber Institute for Worship Studies
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Vern, I agree re: certification. It is in the five-year plan of IWS to consider a co-curricular multi-faceted certification program. I would like to see this developed. Let's continue to dialogue. James R. Hart, President The Robert E. Webber Institute for Worship Studies
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I would love to talk about this Jim. Just let me know...
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I changed degree plans, adding a year in the process. I still didn't graduate, for personal reasons. I left and served a church upon a recommendation from my Dean of FA and the pastor's lack of concern about whether I had a degree or not. However, it never quit bugging me. Others were getting theirs, so why not me? Finally I petitioned to return and my plea was was accepted. They devised a special course of study that had me finishing by the end of only one semester. So for me, it had nothing to do with what I learned, and everything to do with whether or not I had the personal discipline to follow a prescribed course of instruction REGARDLESS of what I thought of the higher education process. To me, this is one of the important factors mixed into a degree program---the discipline it takes to finish, and the maturity developed in the process.
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Great point, Richard, and I agree wholeheartedly. As a former academic, though, I know the pressures that departments are under to get all the "core" requirements in, and they do not necessarily prepare a student for the "real world." I applaud your approach, and it sounds as if it functioned as a sort of "super certificate" program in that you ended up with a degree. Now my question is... has it mattered to the church(es) you have subsequently served?
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Christina Laberge
1 years 301 days ago
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Wonderful article, and I agree with most of it wholeheartedly. I'm sitting on a DMA in Sacred Music, but the truth of the matter is that churches seem far more interested in my 28+ years of experience than my degree. I occasionally do get a spark of interest about the school I attended for my grad work, but I suspect that you are correct and that it had far more to do with football than the competency of the school of music. I also wear another hat: I am a licensed massage therapist. I went to school and graduated from an accredited facility, but passing my state board exams was the step that gave me a license to practice in Ohio. I also took two national exams that would allow my licensure in other states if I should move. These exams are administered by Pearson VUE, and have a great deal of credibility throughout the USA. It seems to me that the problem we are facing is that although the human body is relatively the same from client to client (pathologies excluded), the needs of churches vary hugely based on demographics, size, denomination, location and pastoral vision. Yes, an exam could be given to check familiarity with the liturgical year, planning resources, repertoire, choral development, etc., but these demands have varied widely in even the few churches I have served. The idea of testing is very attractive. The creation and application of such a test might be too unwieldy to be of any actual use.
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Thanks for your thoughtful and helpful response, Christina. I suspect you may be correct about the application of the test, but I'll bet that we could create one by just asking the people who do the work in the field (and yes, I'm implying NOT by the academics). I think that if there were such a certificate, it would encourage church musicians and worship leaders to do more continuing education, which I think is critical in a rapidly changing worship environment such as the era in which we are living.
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Ken Carter
1 years 301 days ago
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Good idea, Vern. Why don't you do it?
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I've thought about it, Ken, that's for sure. vs
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